alberto, you're a complete moron like many of your fellow americans. Don't get me wrong i'm not generalizing here it's just that some of you seem to think that being an american is somehow making you superior to all the other nations. I don't know what they teach you in school, but i can assure you that WW2 wasn't fought only by you americans but by people from all of the continents hence the name(world war). You're so caught up in your cult of superiority that you can't see the real reason which is behind America participating in the 2nd ww, 60 years ago. America had no reason for entering the war so Pearl Harbor was the perfect way for the american government to make morons like you believe the democratic propaganda crap they continue to promote today. America didn't fight the so called fascist and imperialist countries for the sake of human rights or democracy but for world domination and the sad thing is that the media glorifies the war in such a way that people like you end up in believing this bullshit. I'm not saying America did not have a key role in winning the war but that wasn't for altruistic reasons like many of you "americans" think. Saving the asses of the british was the last thing on their mind and hearing some of you normal americans promote the same "values" as your goverment has done for decades now makes me sick. you should try watching some movies made by other countries or books written by authors from other countries and have a complete perspective on what ww2 meant and all of the elements that cane toghether to the final result. as a german (yes, german) philosopher once said "Have the courage to use your own understanding".
Steve
· 5 months ago
Band of Brothers is the single greatest work of Film in the history of film. I really don't care if anyone wants to bash that opinion. Perfectly woven war violence, stunning special effects, gripping emotional drama and a great blend of comedy for such a work. If The Pacific is half as good as Band of Brothers, which i don't think it will be bc it only centers on 3 characters and not a platoon or so i hear, it will probably be the second best thing HBO has ever distributed, and well worth the 200 million dollar budget. If anyone wants to see TV at its finest, watch the episode Bastogne. Emotional, tear jerking, gripping, edge of your seat action.
retguy64
· 5 months ago
100% agree
trashcanman
· 5 months ago
100% agree with you too. my grandfather fought in the pacific. my only hope that its is half as good as band of brothers. bastogne is my favorite episode too.
Simon
· 5 months ago
No wonder they could not focus on a platoon or so... So many soldiers died and I am wondering if there is any similar unit as in BoB in the Pacific front. Moments for those who sacrificed their lives...
Art
· 5 months ago
you couldn't have said it any better, agree 100%.
PO.SKI
· 5 months ago
It may be the best work Ive seen for WW2 but after reading all the books that the men from Easy wrote not everything in the series is how it truly happened
rcr
· 5 months ago
I am really looking forward to this because I've seen literally nearly every military movie made and read many of the best books.....BoB is on top but I also watch We Were Soldiers, When Trumets Fade, Saving Private Ryan, and Letters from Iwo over and over. What I like about these are the emotions you feel for the everyday soldier, what he went through day to day, and how his innocent youth was disrupted to perserve our freedoms. Like someone said above, if you've not read "With the Old Breed" you've missed the one of the best, if not the best memior written of all time by the late E.B. Sledge. 1/3 of this series is based on that memior, and will I believe it will give us insight to the sights, sounds, smells, misery, and utter chaos of a battlefield that 99% of us, including myself, will never know. It will be more dark than than other movies/series we've seen to date, but that's what the pacific theatre was probably like and we should all see it to appreciate what that part of the Greatest Generation did for us!
Rob
· 5 months ago
Have you seen the lost battalion?
Proud Son
· 5 months ago
How right you are about "With the Old Breed"....My Dad, who passed away in 1999 was a Marine vet and fought at Peleilu, Okinawa and served afterward in China for some 6 months after the Pacific War ended....Up until the day he died, I could never get him to speak of his experiences in the war....All I can imagine is that they were horrendous, especially to a young who at just barely 18 years of age experienced things that I am certain he would rather never seen.....All I can say is "freedom is not free"...We live in the greatest country in the world, even in today's economic, political and social environs....For the last 20+ years I have traveled for work extensively throughout the world, and to this day, my most happy experiences of those travels has been coming back thru' US Customs at various airports or ports.....The vast majority of Americans do not truly understand, nor will the ever know how truly blessed we are and that we owe and extreme debt of gratitude to all "all Citizen Soldiers" as Mr. Ambrose so aptly describes them...in WWI, WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Gulf I and II, etc, etc....
an iraq war vet
· 5 months ago
i hope that people can watch this and realize that WWII was fought over 60 years ago, and that while the military in these films are liberating occupied countries...our military today occupies countries and runs concentration camps at home (ice detention centers) and abroad (gitmo, iraq, afghanistan, etc). Sadly we have become the very enemies we waged war against during the 40s.
I just don't want this to turn into a propaganda piece for the US military. We should respect the fact that the soldiers that fought in WWII fought in a war against fascism and imperialism, but that the battle today is against the politicians in both parties that want to drive us in to debt by trying to maintain the American empire.
fred
· 5 months ago
your paranoid !!!!freak they said the same of bob in its tgime...its about ww2 freak
Sgt. Habes
· 5 months ago
Your a moron, Sit on your ass and do nothing and the war comes here and we fight it on our shores. The world is a bad place with bad people that don't want America to succeed because then they can't rule over there people and murder there citizens. If they take us down then they can do what ever they want. Did you watch the news? Did you see the people being killed in the streets because there not allowed to question the election. Go back to your cave we don't need Americans like you. I've been there and seen what happens in other countries don't spew your trash unless you seen it.
paul
· 5 months ago
grow up
Tom
· 5 months ago
First, thank you for your service.
Your view is partially accurate, but contains a rather inaccurate historical picture. There is little different now from then. We had prisoner-of-war camps during World War II, some even here in the US. (Part of the difference then was that all of the combatants wore identifiable uniforms.) After the war was over, we remained in those countries, some to this day. Why else do we have military bases in Germany and Japan? Are those "occupied" countries? Further, we helped rebuild those countries, just as we are helping rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.
I understand why people see this as the desire to build or maintain an "empire," but believing it does not make it true. It simply means that you personally believe that propaganda.
I personally do not think that is true. Nor do I think it is true that these series glorify the military. Watch or don't watch, but try to include an accurate picture of history when you state your opinion.
Raumance
· 5 months ago
I dont think this is a good idea. Its just that I rank the original BoB series the best. The best of all series, miniseries and movies. Its just the best thing Ive seen on a screen. So thus making it hard to reach that same level that the original one did.
FarSide
· 5 months ago
Yeah, they should stop making TV entirely. They already made the best show ever possible so they should just stop. It's embarrassing, really.
It is too hard to make something as good. I don't ever do hard things because usually you fail at them, and that feels bad.
Name
· 1 month ago
lol
mescon
· 5 months ago
Woot woot! Can't wait! Band of Brothers was awesome!
CanCon
· 5 months ago
Dont worry all, it will be brillant.
BCH
· 5 months ago
Tom Hanks?
That name sounds familiar....
Chris
· 5 months ago
Tom Hanks is not in the film/series, it is produced by him and Spielberg (similar to BoB series).
Michael
· 5 months ago
BoB was brilliant. I was able to see the film with both of my Grandfathers, one fought in Europe the other in the Pacific. It moved them both and we were able to talk about their separate experiences for the first time together. Sadly they both passed in the last few years. I look forward to this mini series to see what the other one went thru.
facebook-1487610029
· 5 months ago
Wow!! I've been waiting for a good, solid representation of the Pacific Theater in WW2 for a long time. Flags of Our Fathers was really good, but I think this is going to top it. This is going to be good therapy for anyone who has been in combat (like myself), and a good education tool for those who have not. Really looking forward to this!!
Kal
· 5 months ago
Watch the Thin Red Line if you haven't already. Good pacific war movie.
Jelperman
· 5 months ago
I made the mistake of watching that pretentious pile of you-know-what with my grandfather (who fought on Guadalcanal) and his review was a big Thumbs Down, though there was some unintentional laughter at John Travolta as a general.
bryce
· 5 months ago
Letters from Iwo Jima is great Pacific Theater war movie. Check it out.. way better than Flags of Our Fathers.
fred
· 5 months ago
i agree not enough stories of this pacic war...pearl harbor doesnt count
Josh
· 5 months ago
Josh Young likes this.
Old Sailor
· 5 months ago
The war in the Pacific was a very different kind of war for Americans that the war in Europe. They didn't talk much about it but, I had an uncle on the Tennessee qand one in a B29. I was in Nam and I know that war is war but, from what I know about the war in the Pacific, I egt chills. I WILL see all of this.
HoosierD
· 5 months ago
Great, the Marines and Airborne won WWII
windsofwar
· 5 months ago
No, the marines and the Navy (including carriers) won the pacific theater. The Soviet Union defeated Germany.
Name
· 5 months ago
I think quite a few people helped, didn't they?
Name
· 5 months ago
I appreciate and understand your support for the Marines & Airbourne, but it does belittle the millions of brave men & women, military & civilian who gave every ounce of their lives & died in pain & misery to help us defeat tyranny. I think it was a proper group effort kicked Adolfs skinny ass
KyleTheRev
· 5 months ago
Oh its deifnelty gonna be better, cause BoB was the army and there a bunch of dooshes. The Pacific is Marines, it basically took what was wrong with Bob and made it better.
Guest
· 5 months ago
At least the soldiers in the Army can spell.
JCL
· 5 months ago
Having a father who fought with John Basilone on the "Canal" I am sorry he didn't live long enough to see this. He missed BoB, dying 6 months before BoB was released. I suspect a tear will hang in the corner of my eye for all 10 episodes of The Pacific. Semper Fi.
Greg
· 5 months ago
My dad fought on Okinawa as a young Marine. Luckily he's still with us and doing well at 83. BoB was fantastic. I hope The Pacific lives up to that high standard. If you haven't read With the Old Breed, you should. It's an incredible work that tells what fighting was like in the Pacific. I believe the new series is based in no small part on this book.
Yut
· 5 months ago
I don't see why it would not be a good idea to make this movie. At the end of episode 10 there was a radio broadcast or some mention to elements of Easy Company going to join (attach with) Marines in the Pacific war. Not to mention its history that nobody seems to remember.
I'm sure they'll base it on actual events as BoB did with characters that are still living. It's going to be awesome.
brad
· 5 months ago
its a mini series not a movie and is not going to be based off easy company.
Luke
· 5 months ago
I just hope that this time other nations apart from America can fight Germany. I'm pretty sure other countries had a small supporting role in the World War.
Ron
· 5 months ago
Well, if "other" nations like, they can produce WWII movies from their point of view. Secondly, this new series is about the Pacific theater of operations (first clue - "The Pacific") where the enemy was the japanese, not the Germans. Gawd, our public school systems suck.
Al
· 5 months ago
Second that. If you haven't read With the Old Breed then you know nothing of the war in the Pacific. The mini-series is based on WtOB as well as Helmet for My Pillow by Robert Leckie.
jerry
· 5 months ago
BoB started out pretty well, but then coasted in for a creaking draggy finish. I hope this one finds a better pace.
John
· 5 months ago
Luke, Don't be an idiot. BOB followed an American company, so it follows Americans. They did show some others, but of course it was focused on Americans. Write a history book and then get it produced by whomever you can. Until then, quit whining.
Luke
· 5 months ago
Woah, some hostility there John. Yes, I realise that BOB follows an American company, I am not an idiot. I was just commenting that anyone whose view of WW2 is based solely on movies and TV shows would get the impression that the war was America vs the Axis, Saving Private Ryan, Letters etc etc. It would be nice of American film-makers to include some other countries in their work in respect for the role played. You know, like the British Empire holding out against the Axis for 3 years while you guys pissed around with your thumbs up your arses. Or even the fact that New Zealand had the 2nd highest loss rate per capita after Russia.
Alberto
· 5 months ago
@Luke. No one cares. Explain to me the reason AMERICAN film makers should focus on making WWII movies about the Brits? Why would we care? If Brits want to make movies about Brits, then do it, we won't argue with you. But lets look at commercialism. Movies/TV are meant to be directed towards an audience. How do you get the biggest American Audience? Its not necessarily by showing the struggle of the Brits during WWII, but probably by showing AMERICANS fighting heroically.
Also, if you want to bitch about y'all holding out against the Axis while Americans were sitting around doing nothing, go ahead and whine. I'm sorry that you feel bad that every movie shows essentially the Americans coming in and saving the Brits and the French from Hitler. Oh, wait, I forgot, thats what happened. Yall want to sit around arguing that "omg, why dont they show us Brits doing something, or holding out for 3 years" When in reality, yall held out for 3 years because the US kept sending the British Supplies, and yall didnt break out until the Americans (and some Canadians as well, lets not forget them, omg) came in did most of the work when it came to breaking into Fortress Europa.
In the end, the story of WWII is essentially one of wear the Brits and the French had their asses saved by the US and Russia.
Lets also not forget, the US did this WHILE fighting a second massive war on the other side of the planet against Imperial Japan.
Joshua
· 5 months ago
The British Empire's exploits in amphibious warfare have been made into film. Gallipoli, produced by an Australian film company was nominated for a golden globe for its portrayal of heroic Aussies and Kiwis in the empire's dismal strategic failure. Should we harp on the aussies for not making movies about Americans?
I find it interesting that we Americans continue to do the same movie themes over and over again. Its as if we like pain or feel numb without it. Perhaps the memories of the war are lodged in our cellular memory. My dad sure held onto the trauma of it. Can u imagine being a young man, your first step into the outside world is seeing someone's head or other body part blown off. Its a hard memory to indulge and even harder to forget.
Luke
· 5 months ago
@Alberto - y'all a retard
I'm not saying that American film-makers should make films about the British. Of whose nationality I'm not by the way. I'm just saying it would be nice if their view of WW2 was not quite as myopic and recognised the contribution made by other countries. And excuse me? The Americans and Canadians did most of the work breaking into Fortress Europe? 4/5 German deaths in WW2 were by the Russians, who would have won the war by themselves even if America hadn't entered. While America entrance into the war had a large effect on the balance of power I don't think it was quite as large as you give yourself credit for Alberto. Do y'all get that?
J
· 5 months ago
Luke, if the Axis did not have to worry about the normandy invasion, they most likely would have beaten Russia. They made it all the way to Stalingrad with just what they used. Now imagine if they didn't have to worry about the normandy invasion and what would have happened if their LW hadn't been torn up in North Africa. So if if wasn't for North Africa/normandy invasion I highly doubt the Russians would have beaten Germany. Sorry.
Secondly, as someone else already mentioned... These are movies made to appease their american audience. They aren't documentaries.
K
· 5 months ago
Wrong. Normandy invasion was in 1944, the German Army was already grinding to a halt in front of Stalingrad, where they ended up losing an entire Army. Western Allied aid was critical, but the Russians had the initiative from Stalingrad onwards. WITH Allied aid, it is possible they could have marched to the Atlantic Without D-Day. Of course, it would have been a bloodbath. And yes, one must remember these aren't documentaries, and are filmed with an audience in mind.
joeroe
· 5 months ago
False. Germany was focusing all of its attention on Stalingrad because Hitler had a delusional belief that the key to Russia lied in the capture of Stalingrad. Germany became bogged down and eventually defeated in Stalingrad, leading to the utter annihilation of Germany's 6th army. Over 840,000 military casualties suffered by Germany at the time of the 6th army's surrender. North Africa was abandoned to aid troops in the eastern front, Britain had great control of the African front, and Normandy beaches were not as guarded as they could have been thanks to allied counter-intelligence agents convincing Hitler to fortify many beach heads north of Normandy.
Get your facts straight before you try to talk down to someone. By the time America had jumped into the war, Russia was fully militarized with a vast cache of resources, nationalism, a total-war mindset, not to mention war time production sky rocketing. The only thing we, the Americans, did was invest in both Germany and Britain's war machine while coming in at the last moment to steal all the glory.
K
· 5 months ago
Not really. Britain's "great control" of Africa would not have been great at all without America getting involved via Torch. They had spent the last years getting chased around the desert by Rommel. American arms were key in sustaining Russia's war effort--money wise as well as arms shipments. I'm not discounting Russia's own production, but you seem to think Russia would've been just fine facing Germany without Allied aid. Coming in at the last minute to steal glory? Without the USA, there would be no D-day, and victory in Africa would be questionable. American aid was critical to keep its Allies afloat.
Katie
· 5 months ago
Personally, I think this is series is long overdue. The Pacific Theater is largely forgotten and many Americans know little to nothing about it. Its rather tragic, as is the neglect of other campaigns such as North Africa and Italy.
Second, I would really love it if certain foreigners (and Americans alike) quit undermining the American War effort during WWII all because Americans are actually proactive in telling the stories of AMERICANS in WWII. Yeah I would love to see other battles from WWII on film also but it shouldn't be up to American companies to make them. Yes I know that many Americans think we saved the day, yes it is frustrating, but don't undermine the sacrifice of our men and women just to try and prove a point (which i get wasn't your intention Luke.)
I've got to say, I'm psyched for this. Great source material.
SMOKESMELLSTINKS
· 5 months ago
try watching Winter War from Finland!
J
· 5 months ago
To add to my other post, everyone played a part. No one country won the war. The Allied nations all added in their own specific ways.
Joe S
· 5 months ago
Thats it. You are exactly right. While Britain couldn't defeat Germany after the Fall of France, Russia might have lost without aid from the Western Allies. All of these elements were critical to defeating Germany. Russian's ability to survive then gave the west time to build up its forces and cause Germany to move troops to other threatened areas giving the Russians a better chance to take the war to Germany. Without all of these various countries working together it might have ended differently
abe vigoda
· 5 months ago
The russian winter is what defeated the germans. coupled with the size of russia, they were able to stash their supply lines further into the country. The americans cut up the german luftwaffe gaining air superiority which also was a major turning point. the British did crack the german codes early in the war which was also invaluable in the outcome of the war. I really think russia gets too much credit. if they were so over powering why did they refuse to aid with the invasion of japan, which is a reason for the bomb being used. russia is responsible for japan getting nuked end of story cant wait to watch this series!
Dave
· 5 months ago
Japan is responsible for Japan getting nuked.
j
· 5 months ago
Russia did invade Japan. The agreement made at Yalta was that 3 months after Europe had been won then Russia would invade Japan. Truman didn't want to deal with the post-war situation that would result from Russia partially occupying Japan, a'la Korea. Plus the US had already begun to switch to a Cold War mentality at that point. The bomb was just as much a show for Russia as it was to end the war with Japan. But Russia did begin to move in to Northern Japanese territory when they surrendered.
iNF0 x
· 5 months ago
Best series ever made.Pacific better be good
Dan
· 5 months ago
Haha, you think America was supplying the russians? oh man that cracks me up
America made a mint out of that war, its why they dominated the world finances for 50 years afterward. lend lease yo.
Luke is right, America refused to get involved made a fucktone of money out of it and then when they finally got attacked by japan they went oh fuck we better represent.
Anton
· 5 months ago
I'm sure this will be epic and educational viewing, as BoB was gripping and one of the few history based stories my entertainment-bound stepkids(girls 11-13) watched with rapt attention and got teary eyed when the "cute" GIs died! Alas...I fear this is only the latest, modern-day 'prophesy' being revealed to us by the Hollywood 'temple' priests: Get ready for more bitter war & death in 2010->, fellow Americans--here's some graphic, fact based,TV programming as anaesthetic to your sensibilities, as our politicians find more excuses to engage our young people in campaigns abroad. I firmly remember the period '98-'00, when Hollywood pumped out endless series of graphic combat pics, ranging from BoB,RedLine,PvtRyan,M.Gibson's Patriot,etc., to popcorn like StarshipTroopers. Heavy focus on brothers-in-arms, facing visceral death,blah, blah...I predicted GW-2 in summer '00 based on what I saw & read in world news while stationed in Japan. I'm again in Japan & headed to Afghstn shortly...and I can 'smell it', 1.5 yr out.
Frank
· 5 months ago
My father was a combat engineer in the pacific. A mortality rate of over 80% for a while. I think they all comtributed, army, navy, marines etc. Just from the trailer, the acting looks great.
IAN
· 5 months ago
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH IV BEEN WATING 4 SOOOOOO LONG I WILL BE JUMPING UP AND DOUN ALL DAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
moby
· 5 months ago
I heard that, in heaven, every channel is as good as HBO.
Ron
· 5 months ago
What is it with this modern day attempt to set the record straight and minimize or diminish America's contribution to winning the war? I think it was acombination of many elements that defeated Germany, not the least of which was the Russian winter, but the fact that when the Russians determined the threat of an invasion to Siberia from Japan had subsided, they snatched victory from the jaws of defeat by moving 200,000 troops, 1000 tanks, and 1000 warplanes from Siberia to the fight against the Germans. The Russians in WWII? Their willingness to sacrafice their red hordes in endless slaughters had something to do with it as well. And the fact that they fought a one front war, bringing the weight of their entire ary to bear against the Germans. The US? two fronts, including their entire Marine Corps (400,000+ men) and 27 Army divisions (with support troops, about 1.5 - 2million men) in the Pacific area of operations. What if those troops had been available in the fight against Hitler? What about the Air Corps and the bulk of our Navy in the Pacific? Maybe the war in Europe is over in late '43, early '44? People seem to forget that we were committed on a massive scale on two fronts.
And, the mention of Russia's entry into the war against Japan in the closing days isn't even worth talking about. They didn't do gaga against the Japanese on that front.
William
· 5 months ago
this will be absolutely brilliant
mike
· 5 months ago
The USA did not want to get involved in yet another war that dessimated an earlier generation till it was sure the war directly affected us, like during WWI. A war that was not ours other than to support a nation that 100 years earlier actually invades our shores. And yes, we made money from it but not what you think. Why would a nation use all its natural resources for free to a cause that at that time did not affect us? Later that changed which is why there are so many nations that cannot and will not payback war debt to us. Not that they can ever repay their freedoms that were save by us as a nation, and by the blood of our fathers and grandfathers. I am sick of these Obama types, that feel we owe apologies to the world for being rich, powerful yet charitable with our money and lives to make the world a much better place than it ever would have been without the USA.
Spaghetti Lovr
· 5 months ago
Nope.
The Italians won WW 2 for us. They were on our side in the first war and we almost lost.
Name
· 5 months ago
Iraq War Vet is a moron. How dare you equate this great country to our enemies of 60 years ago and of today. READ A HISTORY BOOK you idiot.
Brent
· 5 months ago
Some of you people wanting to downplay the role the U.S. had in WW2 and embellish the roles of others really need to read about WW2 and educate yourself on what actually happened prior to, and during WW2 and thus pull your head out of your a*s. Russia was going down in FLAMES until the U.S stepped up our aid to them. Germany worked over most of Europe like a fat kid with a birthday cake and kicked the Brits out at Dunkirk. For ANYONE to imply that Germany would have been defeated without the intervention of the U.S. is just asinine. I'm not going to even get into what would have happened had we not taken on the Japanese almost single handidly. It seems some of you morons forget that the Japs and Germans were buddies. The Japs wouldn't have stopped at China had it not been for the U.S. , and Russia would have been getting pig-roasted and both ends.
D
· 5 months ago
Now, now everyone! ... Let us all just sit down and play a rousing game of Axis and Allies and just play this out on the table. We can just see how everything plays out if 'this-country' or 'that-country' didn't do 'this' or 'that'.
... Seriously though. Allied forces = WIN. Axis powers = LOSE. The end. Who cares about logistics? Its funny how we argue about this sort of thing when we should just be thankful that ANY man, from ANY country would go risk (and for many, LOSE) their lives to fight evil. Like... Literal EVIL. We should just be thankful Hitler didn't get his wish.
Joe F
· 4 months ago
The key difference with this trailer, and granted it's just a trailer, and BoB is the postulating that these soldiers are doing throughout the trailer- I believe our cause is just- things like that. Also, there is sexuality in the trailer. I'm no prude, but BoB didn't care about the cause and the grandstanding- these were kids who just wanted to go home. We saw WWII around and through them, and this trailer feels more like a Michael Bay movie. Like the soldier's narration in coming from an introduction to a Pacific Theater history book, versus some kid from Philly or Jersey.
Please let me be wrong.
Name
· 4 months ago
hi all, l was an extra in the pacific here in australia, they also used my jeep, from what l saw it should be a great series, hope you all enjoy and take it for what it is and tries to portray, no one really wins a war but we do need to fight them somtimes to try and keep this world sane...evil triumphs when good men do nothing, cheers, g.i. current serving aussie army, iraq vet.
Name
· 4 months ago
I heard that Tom Hnks and Steven Speilberg were making this years ago, and i could not be happier. I 1000%, yes 1000% agree aboutthe Bastogne episode, the entire BoB was truly amazing. Freedom is not free, you pay dearly for it, it is the most expensive thing on this planet... paid for in blood, be grateful that you have it.
mark k
· 4 months ago
Other countries had a small supporting role in WWII?...27 million Russians were killed and 850,000 U.S. and British combined troops perished. In addition WWII started on Sept. 1st, 1939 and America entered the war on Dec. 7th 1941...well over 2 years later. Today we forget how isolationist America was after the bad experience of WWI.
j
· 4 months ago
i'm excited for this. i've read enough about germany for awhile. the atrocities that the japanese committed against the geneva convention were horrible and it's time that people stop focusing everything horrible in WWII about the germans. the japanese were infinitely worse than the japanese with their POWs. and they fought like psychos. the men in the ETO had a cakewalk compared to the pacific. not to undermine the war in europe because that took a lot of sacrifice. but i'm glad that somebody has finally decided to recognize the pacific in a big way and not a two hour movie most people dont know about.
twon
· 3 months ago
Hands down you all know this is going to be awesome. BoB, SPRyan, and Letters from Iwo Jima are my absolute favorite films. I'm hoping to add the pacific to that list. I had two grandfathers that both fought in Europe WWII. One of which actually stormed the beaches on D-day. Sadly they've both passed before they could see any of these films. I never got the opportunity to have them share their stories about the war....these films are all I have...some may bend the truth and reality, but I'd like to think they experienced some of these historic events. It makes me really proud to even be related. Ok, enough of that. I just hope the mini-series rules.
Ben Rule
· 2 months ago
Being a Brit I would love to see something of similar vein focused on the British war efforts however I am not discounting the American influence for one second. I'm proud to say my 'kingdom' stood alongside you against tyranny and oppression and continues to do so.
BoB was the single-most spectacular miniseries I have ever seen, I was moved to tears by some Easy's story, not to mention the veterans contributions.
Me and friend went to visit Normandy in 2005 and it was one of the most humbling and damning experiences I have ever felt, especially for two 22 year olds. Some argued we should be out chasing girls instead of trawling the war memorials, sites and graves of something that happen 3 generations ago but I would beg to differ enormously.
It's a shame some people do not understand the gravity and enormity of the situation of which our forefathers fought and died for 55+ years ago.
I'm going to look forward to this series with great anticipation and like someone said above, if it's even half as good as BoB then it'll be a hit.
Ben Rule
· 2 months ago
Oh, and this response to many of you who believe Britain was about to be steamrollered.
I'm a little insulted you considered that America solely 'saved the day'
You technically bailed us out of a very sticky situation, but the Empire at the time was holding considerably firm on it's own. I'd predict the USA's intervention swung the war considerably in the Allies favour not just through man power but in resouces too (lend/lease etc) - America didn't win the war alone, but they sure as hell sacrificed ALOT.
The empire had already making inroads in North Africa and over the skies of Britain we inflicted huge losses against the Luftwaffe, who outnumbered the RAF 3 to 1 (not just RAF though - American, Polish and other allied nations pilots helped turn the tide in that particular theatre.)
Britain and her empire was at first very, very unprepared for WWII and that would account for alot of the early losses we suffered and the ground we had to later 're-take.' However, by 1941 Britain was well on course to rebuilding it's strength and I've no doubt the Germans would never have stood a chance of invading us after it rolled into 1942 and their losses on land, sea and in the air stifled their plans.
Whatever the nation, we should all be bloody proud that we can freely have this debate today.
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I don't know what they teach you in school, but i can assure you that WW2 wasn't fought only by you americans but by people from all of the continents hence the name(world war).
You're so caught up in your cult of superiority that you can't see the real reason which is behind America participating in the 2nd ww, 60 years ago. America had no reason for entering the war so Pearl Harbor was the perfect way for the american government to make morons like you believe the democratic propaganda crap they continue to promote today. America didn't fight the so called fascist and imperialist countries for the sake of human rights or democracy but for world domination and the sad thing is that the media glorifies the war in such a way that people like you end up in believing this bullshit.
I'm not saying America did not have a key role in winning the war but that wasn't for altruistic reasons like many of you "americans" think. Saving the asses of the british was the last thing on their mind and hearing some of you normal americans promote the same "values" as your goverment has done for decades now makes me sick. you should try watching some movies made by other countries or books written by authors from other countries and have a complete perspective on what ww2 meant and all of the elements that cane toghether to the final result. as a german (yes, german) philosopher once said "Have the courage to use your own understanding".
I just don't want this to turn into a propaganda piece for the US military. We should respect the fact that the soldiers that fought in WWII fought in a war against fascism and imperialism, but that the battle today is against the politicians in both parties that want to drive us in to debt by trying to maintain the American empire.
Your view is partially accurate, but contains a rather inaccurate historical picture. There is little different now from then. We had prisoner-of-war camps during World War II, some even here in the US. (Part of the difference then was that all of the combatants wore identifiable uniforms.) After the war was over, we remained in those countries, some to this day. Why else do we have military bases in Germany and Japan? Are those "occupied" countries? Further, we helped rebuild those countries, just as we are helping rebuild Iraq and Afghanistan.
I understand why people see this as the desire to build or maintain an "empire," but believing it does not make it true. It simply means that you personally believe that propaganda.
I personally do not think that is true. Nor do I think it is true that these series glorify the military. Watch or don't watch, but try to include an accurate picture of history when you state your opinion.
It is too hard to make something as good. I don't ever do hard things because usually you fail at them, and that feels bad.
That name sounds familiar....
They didn't talk much about it but, I had an uncle on the Tennessee qand one in a B29.
I was in Nam and I know that war is war but, from what I know about the war in the Pacific, I egt chills.
I WILL see all of this.
I'm sure they'll base it on actual events as BoB did with characters that are still living. It's going to be awesome.
Don't be an idiot. BOB followed an American company, so it follows Americans. They did show some others, but of course it was focused on Americans. Write a history book and then get it produced by whomever you can. Until then, quit whining.
No one cares. Explain to me the reason AMERICAN film makers should focus on making WWII movies about the Brits? Why would we care? If Brits want to make movies about Brits, then do it, we won't argue with you. But lets look at commercialism. Movies/TV are meant to be directed towards an audience. How do you get the biggest American Audience? Its not necessarily by showing the struggle of the Brits during WWII, but probably by showing AMERICANS fighting heroically.
Also, if you want to bitch about y'all holding out against the Axis while Americans were sitting around doing nothing, go ahead and whine. I'm sorry that you feel bad that every movie shows essentially the Americans coming in and saving the Brits and the French from Hitler. Oh, wait, I forgot, thats what happened. Yall want to sit around arguing that "omg, why dont they show us Brits doing something, or holding out for 3 years" When in reality, yall held out for 3 years because the US kept sending the British Supplies, and yall didnt break out until the Americans (and some Canadians as well, lets not forget them, omg) came in did most of the work when it came to breaking into Fortress Europa.
In the end, the story of WWII is essentially one of wear the Brits and the French had their asses saved by the US and Russia.
Lets also not forget, the US did this WHILE fighting a second massive war on the other side of the planet against Imperial Japan.
More info on the campaign and film here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallipoli_Campa
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0082432/
I'm not saying that American film-makers should make films about the British. Of whose nationality I'm not by the way. I'm just saying it would be nice if their view of WW2 was not quite as myopic and recognised the contribution made by other countries. And excuse me? The Americans and Canadians did most of the work breaking into Fortress Europe? 4/5 German deaths in WW2 were by the Russians, who would have won the war by themselves even if America hadn't entered. While America entrance into the war had a large effect on the balance of power I don't think it was quite as large as you give yourself credit for Alberto. Do y'all get that?
Secondly, as someone else already mentioned... These are movies made to appease their american audience. They aren't documentaries.
Get your facts straight before you try to talk down to someone. By the time America had jumped into the war, Russia was fully militarized with a vast cache of resources, nationalism, a total-war mindset, not to mention war time production sky rocketing. The only thing we, the Americans, did was invest in both Germany and Britain's war machine while coming in at the last moment to steal all the glory.
Second, I would really love it if certain foreigners (and Americans alike) quit undermining the American War effort during WWII all because Americans are actually proactive in telling the stories of AMERICANS in WWII. Yeah I would love to see other battles from WWII on film also but it shouldn't be up to American companies to make them. Yes I know that many Americans think we saved the day, yes it is frustrating, but don't undermine the sacrifice of our men and women just to try and prove a point (which i get wasn't your intention Luke.)
I've got to say, I'm psyched for this. Great source material.
America made a mint out of that war, its why they dominated the world finances for 50 years afterward. lend lease yo.
Luke is right, America refused to get involved made a fucktone of money out of it and then when they finally got attacked by japan they went oh fuck we better represent.
And, the mention of Russia's entry into the war against Japan in the closing days isn't even worth talking about. They didn't do gaga against the Japanese on that front.
The Italians won WW 2 for us. They were on our side in the first war and we almost lost.
... Seriously though. Allied forces = WIN. Axis powers = LOSE. The end. Who cares about logistics? Its funny how we argue about this sort of thing when we should just be thankful that ANY man, from ANY country would go risk (and for many, LOSE) their lives to fight evil. Like... Literal EVIL. We should just be thankful Hitler didn't get his wish.
Please let me be wrong.
l was an extra in the pacific here in australia, they also used my jeep, from what l saw it should be a great series, hope you all enjoy and take it for what it is and tries to portray, no one really wins a war but we do need to fight them somtimes to try and keep this world sane...evil triumphs when good men do nothing, cheers, g.i. current serving aussie army, iraq vet.
I just hope the mini-series rules.
BoB was the single-most spectacular miniseries I have ever seen, I was moved to tears by some Easy's story, not to mention the veterans contributions.
Me and friend went to visit Normandy in 2005 and it was one of the most humbling and damning experiences I have ever felt, especially for two 22 year olds. Some argued we should be out chasing girls instead of trawling the war memorials, sites and graves of something that happen 3 generations ago but I would beg to differ enormously.
It's a shame some people do not understand the gravity and enormity of the situation of which our forefathers fought and died for 55+ years ago.
I'm going to look forward to this series with great anticipation and like someone said above, if it's even half as good as BoB then it'll be a hit.
I'm a little insulted you considered that America solely 'saved the day'
You technically bailed us out of a very sticky situation, but the Empire at the time was holding considerably firm on it's own. I'd predict the USA's intervention swung the war considerably in the Allies favour not just through man power but in resouces too (lend/lease etc) - America didn't win the war alone, but they sure as hell sacrificed ALOT.
The empire had already making inroads in North Africa and over the skies of Britain we inflicted huge losses against the Luftwaffe, who outnumbered the RAF 3 to 1 (not just RAF though - American, Polish and other allied nations pilots helped turn the tide in that particular theatre.)
Britain and her empire was at first very, very unprepared for WWII and that would account for alot of the early losses we suffered and the ground we had to later 're-take.' However, by 1941 Britain was well on course to rebuilding it's strength and I've no doubt the Germans would never have stood a chance of invading us after it rolled into 1942 and their losses on land, sea and in the air stifled their plans.
Whatever the nation, we should all be bloody proud that we can freely have this debate today.